I'm sure StoryMaker is aware of this, we spoke about it recently. At the time, I stated that I felt that the italics weren't necessary. Part of the reason for this is that there seems to be more discrepancy when it comes to italicizing video game titles, as opposed to other media. I've seen websites not italicize game titles even when they do that for other media. Just as an example, here's a PC Magazine online article that doesn't italicize a video game title, and meanwhile here's an article from the same website where they do that for movies and TV show titles. And here's a Yahoo article where TV show titles are in quotes (similar to italics), and here's another article from that same site where video game titles are not.
When it comes to this wiki, personally I could really go either way. But I don't feel we're immediately violating any kind of strict rules if we don't italicize game titles. It's more like, maybe it would be more proper if we did it that way, but it doesn't feel absolutely necessary either (at least from my point of view).
A long time ago, I agreed with you and as such used that formatting in articles, but I recently changed my mind and started undoing that. Mainly because the titles are used so frequently that it just feels like too much. And I also because I want to keep things simple. I'd rather have it all be one way or another and not italicizing titles is easier.
I've already got started on all six islands from JumpStart 1st Grade (1999), since none of them have an existing page. However, I do not have all of the riddles nor could I identify everything on each island.
This is something I remembered a little while ago, and I don't want to bother you if you're busy, but I remember you added some pictures from some of the JumpStart Scholastic workbooks, like the JumpStart 2nd Grade Math Workshop. I noticed for that page, you mentioned some characters appear in that book that I thought had only appeared in games, like the royal family from JumpStart Math for Second Graders. If it's not too much trouble, would it be possible to get some images of those characters' book appearances? When/if you have time, I mean.
At some point, I'll try collecting some Scholastic workbooks myself so I can help out with that more. I've been kind of distracted by other stuff, but those workbooks always looked pretty cool from the excerpts I've seen.
I love the work you've done on the wiki, my inner nerd is really satisfied and I love the original Jumpstart games. I contacted Bluecake a few days ago, but they haven't responded, so I figured I would contact you. If possible, could you contact me at my email, email@example.com? I would like to discuss the future of the wiki. :)
Something I had been considered lately is creating gallery subpages for characters. We already have gallery subpages for some of the games, like JumpStart Around the World/Gallery. I've found a lot of wikis which have gallery subpages for characters, and it seems kind of convenient? I'm mainly looking at the gallery for Frankie, which now has over 50 images. Putting all those images on their own subpage might make the main page less cluttered.
Also, I remember you had this idea to create character design galleries. So I was thinking, on these character pages, we could use the gallery section and limit the images to just character designs like you did with Hopsalot's page here. Just make that the main gallery, and then just have a link to the subpage with all the rest of the Hopsalot images.
It's just a thought for now, although if that sounds like a good idea to you, I can go ahead and start implementing it on the character pages. It'd look something like this (that's a link to a gallery subpage for the character Cinderella on the Disney wiki)
Wow, I actually had a thought about this just recently! I am noticing the gallery pages for some of the characters are getting pretty big, so I think this would be a sensible idea to implement.
I agree that we could still have the "Character design galleries" on the character's main page. Personally, I'd like for it to remain a subsection of the Appearance section due to the strong thematic connection between the two.
There's another thought I've been having about galleries. In light of how we've generally been handling them, it's usually made sense for galleries to not contain every single image of the character (or screenshot of a game, etc.) that's uploaded on the Wiki because that would be overkill. (For example, we don't put every single screenshot which contains a character on that character's page, and when we post additional screenshots on individual activity pages to showcase different difficulty levels, those generally don't make it onto the game's page.) However, the thought has occurred to me that maybe we should have a way for users to be able to access every single image that contains a certain character, or which is a screenshot of a certain game, even if not all the images are important enough to be put in the Gallery of that character or game. Maybe now that some Galleries are on their own pages, we can use them for every image - though at the same time, if we do choose to do that, I think they should be carefully divided up into categories, much as the Around the World gallery already is, so that users don't get swamped with a bunch of images they don't want to look at. Another possibility is that we should put the images themselves into categories. I don't know if I have a clear idea of what to do, I'm just throwing out some thoughts.
Anyway, the upshot is, this is a good idea, and I think we should keep the conversation going about how we handle images and galleries on the Wiki, in case there's anything else we could improve! Hopefully, I'll find more opportunities to work on the Wiki, too.
Yeah, we can bounce ideas back and forth until we settle on something we both like!
So, for the points you brought up, putting the character design galleries right after or inside of the appearance section makes sense, after all it would be good for the visuals to be right next to the descriptions. I think maybe just putting the gallery inside of the appearance section with a subheader to seperate it from the descriptions would work well. And then keep the Gallery header down near the bottom of the page, but just put a link to the gallery subpage there rather than a gallery on the page.
For the other thing, I feel the same way about the images issue. I think for accessing every image of a character, or content from a specific game, the image categories option might be the best workaround? I haven't used them too much, but it wouldn't be that difficult to go through the uploaded images on the wiki and tag them accordingly. Like at the moment, there's a category for screenshots, so every image tagged as a screenshot shows up there. If we were to start tagging images with the names of characters, or games, that could give people a way to quickly find all the content featuring a particular character, or from a particular game. In order to make it easier for users to find this content, we could probably leave a link on the respective character/game pages? Like for Frankie, underneath the gallery header it could say something like "See Frankie/Gallery for a gallery of Frankie images, or see Category:Frankie for all images with Frankie". And that way the galleries themselves can stay a little more filtered, if that makes sense? Like avoiding having too many repetitive images from a single game or low quality images in the gallery, that sort of thing.
I'll definitely think about it some more before doing anything. I think together we've come up with some great ideas and we're close to finding a solution. I'm looking forward to doing something with these ideas!
It's great seeing that you've started putting a lot of images into categories! Seems like a great first step. I'll probably join you soon! I feel like the idea of having a separate Gallery page for "significant" images of the character, plus a category for ALL images featuring that character, is a solid idea.
I do have a couple of other ideas for image categories. For example, there could be a category for promotional artwork and categories for different eras (classic, updated, advanced, current). I might start implementing these at some point, though I do think character categories are probably more important.
Great! I can get started making the gallery subpages soon, and categorizing more images. And those are good idea for categories, I'll try to start adding more categories, like the different eras / promotional artwork, to the images. I had a couple ideas similar to that, like a category for digital manual images, but admittedly I'd mostly been focusing on character/game tags, so I'll try to branch it out a bit. And we can always add more categories as we go. I'm glad this seems to working out well so far, I'll see if I can get some work done on the gallery pages later today!
To be honest I think we're still working that part out ^^' So far I've just been putting the images that came from games in one section, and promotional art / artwork that came from websites or boxart in another section, and then one more section for anything else that doesn't fit into those two categories (like toys, or concept art). It's just kind of a base for now though, I imagine we might expand on this in time
Yep! These are the main programs I use to make gifs:
- Open Broadcaster Software, a great screen-recording tool.
- RAD Video Tools. I actually first downloaded it because some JumpStart cutscenes use a file type that it (and not much else) can open, but it also has a nifty and extremely straightforward feature for converting videos to gif (and other image formats for that matter).
- A piece of software for converting other video types to avi (because RAD Video Tools actually can't use the filetypes that OBS uses, lol).
- Jasc Animation Shop, a great and really straightforward tool for making and working with animated gifs. It came with Paint Shop Pro 9, a Photoshop-type piece of software that's almost 10 years old now, and which I got when it was new, so I've owned it for quite a while now! I actually like Animation Shop a lot more for making gifs than Photoshop.
All of those tools other than Animation Shop are free. (Well, actually the video conversion software is a trial version, but it works perfectly fine for my purposes.)